In Gurmukhi (Punjabi). Visit our library at sikh_library/ Guru Nanak Dev Ji met Jinda Mahatma Kabir Ji Evidence in Bhai Bale Wali – JANAM SAKHI – Shri Guru Nanak Dev Ji Topic: Swaal Kaji Rukndin Soora – ਸੁਆਲ. God Kabir had asked Guru Nanak Dev Ji for this secret information about the True Naam Guru Nanak Dev kept Satnam Secret – Janam Sakhi – Bhai Bala.

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In this Janamsakhi, it is written that in Treta Yuga, the Guru was aservant of Raja Janak, used to worship images and tell lies. These compositions have been written at various stages after the death of the first guru.

Did Bhai Bala Exist? The more you get involved with sikhi the less you start listening to those songs.

Guru Ji responds with three sloks:. The main janamsakhis which scholars over the years have referred to are as follows:. There are a number of other anomalies, which Dr.

The author wanted to create confusion in Sikhs.

But there werent Sandhus in Nankana Sahib back then. Articles lacking in-text citations from December All articles lacking in-text sa,hi Articles containing Punjabi-language text.

The Second udasi was to the south of India with companion Bhai Mardana. All the Janamsakhis record miraculous acts and supernatural conversations. In reality, Bhai Bala never existed. Who did this mischief and how did it happen? Vala was sent to learn Persian at the age of nine but returned home and continued to sit in silence.

Pyare jio, most people believe Bhai Bala ji is an invention of the hindu right-wing groups. A renowned Sikh scholar, Gurmukh Singh of the Oriental College, Lahore, found another janamsakhi at Hafizabad which was very similar to that found by Colebrook.


The mind is easily upset, a bit jaanm an unruly child. Regarding Baba Handal Karam Singh refers to the sakgi as given in Bhai Bala’s Janamsakhi, relating to the departure for abode of Ki, story of discussion with Bhagat Dhrooh, and the story of visit to Kandhar in all these stories Guru Nanak Dev was downgraded and Baba Handal was greatly exalted. Many of them contradict each other on material points and some have obviously been touched up to advance the claims of one or the other branches of the Guru’s family, or to exaggerate the roles of certain disciples.

From this it is clear janaj those who had written this Janamsakhi, never realised their mistake. We here are all some fortunate tho that we are all currently students or were students recently and have been taught the value of critical analysis. Sign up for a new account in our community.


The name of Bhai Bala is so popular that it is doubtful if any other Sikh is popular to that extent. The contents of Bhai Bala’s Janamsakhi are clear. The Minas were subsequently execrated by Guru Gobind Singh Ji and Sikhs were instructed to have no dealings with them. The falsification of old or the composition of new Janamsakhis were the result of three great schisms of the Sikh religion: After only one day he gave up reading and when the pundit asked him why Guru Ji lapsed into silence and instructed him at length on the vanity of worldly learning and the contrasting value of the Divine Name of God.

The sect is now extinct. This page was last edited on 22 Julyat This biography agrees entirely with the India Office janamsakhi. A sikh is defined by this very virtue that they do not live in blind faith. So let us do the same on this topic WIth regards to dicussion on the topic of Bhai Bala, an excellent overview of the subject matter is given in Prof Sahib Singhs book, “Adhi Bir Barai”.


By mahandulai Started 22 hours ago. The texts also claim Guru Nanak’s body vanished after his death and left behind fragrant flowers, which Hindus and Muslims then divided, one to cremate and other to bury. Sardar Karam Singh reached the conclusion that Bhai Bala’s Janamsakhi was written at the initiative of the Niranjania sect.


During the earlier times, it was not used by the Sikhs. Macauliffe in his research on Sikh religion, made it available to the Englishman, who had it published in November This advice was taken and at the age of twelve a betrothal was arranged at the house of Mula of the Chona sub-caste. The Guru was stated to have uttered the following Shabad.

As for gandh, well maybe you should read the janamsakhi and see that its the creation of Baba Handalis. This memorial is situated in circumbulation parkarma of Gurdwara Tapiana Sahib where Sri Guru Angad Dev Ji performed his bahi rites with his own hands.

Guru Sahib Ji duly signed it and commended it as a means of acquiring knowledge of Sikh belief.

Bhai Bala – Wikipedia

There is an english translation available and i hihgly encourage everyone to try and read it at some point in time. Why we turned to this side? Nothing bad against you but do some ij parchar my friend. After reading the book there should be no doubt as to the origin, motive and authenticity of all these fake, spurious additions to Sikh history.